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John
Posted on Tuesday, October 22, 2002 - 8:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post

Unless i've missed it somewhere else here is a problem i'm having that i cant find support for.

When taking pictures for a panorama, I often tilt the images and it seems my tripod has done the same on a few, i get images that just need to be rotated by 1-5 degrees. I've tried using photoshop to rotate but it always takes several saves just to get the right degree, and i have to do that for all the images. Is it possible to have a future version of the program (or if i've missed it in the current version) rotate the images as they are stitched, some what like the way "forcing imgages into alingment" works
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Jan Wesbuer
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Username: Janosch

Post Number: 2
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 9:28 am:   Edit PostDelete Post

I would really like that too.

especially because Panorama factory has it still not in Version 3.1

hope it will not be so much work
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John Strait
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Username: Jstrait

Post Number: 23
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Monday, November 03, 2003 - 10:27 am:   Edit PostDelete Post

You are correct that The Panorama Factory does not provide automatic rotation as part of the stitching process.

However, you can use the Rotate command (New image menu) to rotate the images before stitching. You'll have to use the Classic (menu-based) interface in this situation--you cannot use the Wizard. Please refer to Using the Classic interface, step by step if you are not familiar with the Classic interface.

Note that decimal fractions are allowed when you enter the rotation angle, e.g. 1.5 degrees. Also, be sure to select "Same as source image" in the "Image size" box of the Rotate image dialog box.

The Rotate command puts the rotated image in the upper pane (computed thumbnails). When you use the Stitch command, PF tries to stitch the images in the upper pane if there are any. If the upper pane is empty, it tries to stitch the images in the lower pane. It cannot combine upper and lower images, so you should rotate all of the images, even if some are rotated by 0 degrees. That will put them all in the upper pane. Then you can use the Stitch command.

Rotating the images will create white areas at the corners of the rotated images because there is no image data to place in those areas. These white areas may cause two types of problems which can be overcome with manual intervention.

  1. The automatic alignment software may not work properly if the white areas are large enough. However, you can use the manual alignment tools for force the images into alignment. See Manually aligning images.
     
  2. The white areas may cause visible artifacts in the blending of the image overlaps. If you have enough overlap between your images, you can adjust the blending boundaries to reduce or eliminate the white areas. See Adjust blending region boundaries.

You may also find it helpful to read Setting up your camera. Although this page concentrates primarily on setting up a panoramic bracket, it also contains some tips about making hand-held panoramas. I realize that the tips in this web page are not helpful for images that you have already photographed. However, they may help you with making panoramas in the future.

I hope this helps!
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Mike Suiter
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Username: Msuiter

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Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2004 - 7:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post

i just tried this and got a "images must all be the same size" error. i started a new project in classic mode. i imported my images. then i rotated all the images 0, except the one that needed fix. then i selected all the images in the top pane, and clicked stitch. then i get the error stated above.

i'm using v3.3 if that matters.
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John Strait
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Username: Jstrait

Post Number: 134
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Saturday, October 16, 2004 - 9:06 am:   Edit PostDelete Post

To ensure that the rotated images are all the same size, be sure to select Same as source image in the Image size box of the Rotate image dialog box. If you do not select this option, then the sizes of the rotated images will vary depending upon the rotation angle.

I hope this helps!
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Rudolf
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Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 5:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post

Question 1:
Looking at the precise indications how to solve the problem, I wonder why this case is not foreseen (i.e. automated) in Panorama Factory? Or is it planned to include this feature in the future?

Question 2:
If during fine tuning the adjustement lines look like a whirl this would indicate the need of image rotation, I suppose.
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Tim Eastman
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Username: Eastman

Post Number: 1
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 7:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post

To easily level your picture in Photoshop use the measure tool to stretch a line from one side to the other of your tilted picture, on either the top or bottom. Go to Image> Rotate> Arbitrary and the angle registered will be the angle needed to level off your picture! ( Assuming you were careful in stretching your line ) If you want to make life easier, create this as an action that can be applied to the folder with the pictures in it.

(Message edited by eastman on February 10, 2005)
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JW
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Username: Jow

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Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 7:16 am:   Edit PostDelete Post

This topic has been very useful. I usually shoot with a tripod, yet regularly get a few degrees off, despite using the 2 built in spirit levels on the tripod. :-/ Having an auto rotate facility (i.e. rotate all pics by x degreed) would indeed be very useful. It can currently be done manually in PF, but having this automated would be great.
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Ole Arin Sakshaug
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Username: Olearin

Post Number: 1
Registered: 5-2010
Posted on Sunday, May 30, 2010 - 4:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post

I donīt see why therīs no rotation slider in the "image alignment" function.

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